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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jun 5, 2008 4:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Road Trips 1/3...

...just went up:

http://www.deadnetstore.com/roadtripsv1n3.aspx

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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Jun 5, 2008 10:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

*ORDERED*

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jun 6, 2008 6:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Listening party at dead.net

Youre going to have to pay to hear the jams though...

Check that, the China/Rider segue is action packed, at least by '71 standards...

http://www.dead.net/listeningparty/

This post was modified by Cliff Hucker on 2008-06-06 13:07:04

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jun 5, 2008 4:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

Interesting trying to reconcile the setlists on deadnetstore with those on the database websites.

The 8-23-71 set on disc 2 bears no resemblance to those on either setlists.net or deadbase.com, but it partly agrees with the one on deadlists.com. According to that latter site, the CE>TOO>M&MU>TOO>CE fills 33 minutes (!). There's also a note that the show is normally listed as 8-24-71, as it is on the other two sites--guess deadlists was right!

But there's no China>Rider, Truckin', or Sugar Magnolia on 8-23, so I wonder whether the Road Trips folks actually drew tracks from other nights for the disc they're listing as all 8-23. They could be from 7-31, which features all those songs.

Again following deadlists, the first three tracks on disc 1 were originally scattered through the 7-31 first set, sandwiching the Dark Star>Bird Song that is placed after them on disc 1.

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Jun 5, 2008 5:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

Interesting Lou.

I like the selections from 7/31 and 8/23, and the bonus disk as well. I think the 1st set from 08/06 is where the action is, and that's where they went for the tracks. Some of that other stuff on the bonus disk could be anything - should be a nice surprise.

I'll have to hear it first, but this looks like a decent release for 20 bucks.



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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Jun 5, 2008 10:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

*ORDERED*

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jun 5, 2008 5:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

07-31-1971 Yale Bowl is a gen that used to be on dogshit audience, 08-23 is allright, the bonus disc has some really nice shiznit on it...I just might purchase this one...I could give a stoned rat's ass about completionism...

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jun 5, 2008 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

There's a Szechuan restaurant in Seattle that serves a very good stoned rat's ass with hot pepper sauce.

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Poster: mcgannahan Date: Jun 5, 2008 9:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

the candied goat anus is to die for

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jun 5, 2008 6:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

can that beat bostons moofootung? Yes I'm gettin numero 3 the slow cash way. Imo they were hot and hell bent in 71. Dicks Pick Halloween-1 said it well

Celtics in 6

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jun 5, 2008 5:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

I bought the first of these because 79 was my first year "Dead," but quickly lost interest in the series. Like most everybody else, I'd just plain rather have whole shows.

There was a lot of grousing on deadnet when #2 came out because of the "fake" big jams that were created for it and for #1 using parts of different shows from the same time period. So it makes sense that they would go in the direction of taking more material from just one or two shows, but it makes no sense at all if they are just making up dates. This crowd will eat them alive ...


This post was modified by fenario80 on 2008-06-06 00:00:29

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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Jun 5, 2008 10:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

what do you mean by fake big jams being created for #2?

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jun 6, 2008 8:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

A quick look at deadnet shows me that they no longer list the date of each track on Road Trips Vol. 1 # 2, but when they first offered it, they did. While the song list on disc 2 may look something like a set that might have been played, it's actually compiled from performances on at least three different nights. If anyone has the actual CD's they could back me up on this. My interest in complete shows has nothing to do with completism, I just prefer to listen to the music the way it was played, or as close to the way it was played as possible. I don't see the point in putting together sets that never happened.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Jun 6, 2008 4:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

Two nights: Playing from 10-14, then Drums through Around and Around from 10-16, then Brokedown Palace and the Playing reprise from 10-14 again.

But in fairness to GDP, the real second set jam from 10-16 wouldn't have fit on one CD anyway, and the first three numbers (Scarlet>Fire>Estimated) are on the bonus CD. All that is missing is about 3 minutes of Drums.

Like strat, I'd have to say I don't care a shaved ferret's belly about completism.

Or to put it another way: I'm thinking the archivists ran through what they viewed as the most memorable complete or near-complete shows in the 36 installments of Dick's Picks. The nice thing about the Road Trips series is that it enables them to release some material they probably never would or could have if they stuck to complete shows.

Or to put it yet another way: I'm thinking the alternative to Road Trips would have been nothing, and I'll cheerfully take Road Trips over nothing.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jun 7, 2008 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

No argument here - I hear exactly what you are saying, and sorry if I was re-hashing old news. What may have been lost in my second post is that my first post pointed out that Vol. 3 seemed to be correcting the trend by making it two discs of material, one from each of two nights. I bought Vol. 1 for exactly the reasons you say, even though I had all of those shows, and skipped Vol. 2 as much because I already have so much high-quality 77 in complete shows. But, all that said, Vol. 3 is looking better and better and they will probably end up getting my cash for that Yale Bowl Dark Star>Bird Song ..

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Poster: alycabally Date: Jun 6, 2008 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Road Trips 1/3...

Agreed.